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stevej: (Mittwoch 16. Mai 2007, 19:20)

Now covered 3000 miles(4800kms) with my Dunlop D220's. Very pleased with them. The handling is great in both the wet and dry and they are wearing well. 95%+ so far. :) :) :)

Axman: (Freitag 18. Mai 2007, 08:18)

Hi all,

with the appearance of two absolutely new tyres, the Bridgestone BT 020 and the Michelin Pilot Road 2, both with "Dual-Thread-Technology" - the rubber-compound is hard in the middle and soft in the flanks - the discussion starts anew about which is the best..

The biggest european motorcycle magazine, "Motorrad" here from Germany now tested all the new models from Metzeler,Bridgestone,Pirelli,Continental,Avon and Michelin over a period of weeks and for over 5.000 K´s . They were tested for all the relevant properties like handling in the dry, in the wet, two-up, high-speed-performance, roadholding, cornering etc.. even the durability was tested..and the all-over winner is..:

Michelin Pilot Road 2

The highly promoted Bridgestone BT020 only got third..!!

As I always said : Michelin rules.. :wink:

Greets

from the Axman

Lukka: (Freitag 18. Mai 2007, 16:25)

Hi Nige Bailey,

Axman means the BRIDGESTONE BT021. sorry Axmann. :oops:

Best regards LUKKA :cool:

Anonymous: (Freitag 18. Mai 2007, 21:24)

Hi there,

Well, what tyre is better? And for which kind of roads?

The roads here in Greece are with a terrible blacktop, like mirror, and we have mostly warm weather(spring-summer-autumm from 14C to 35C) and only the winter goes around 8C-15C.

So what tyres i should put on METZ Z6 - MICH PILOT ROAD 2 - OR BT021???????? :? :? :?

Regards Giorgos

Axman: (Samstag 19. Mai 2007, 08:10)

Hi Giorgos,

Lukka is right...I meant the BT 021.. :oops:

Which tyre to choose?? That really is up to you...I already told you, that the Michelin Pilot Road 2nd Edition won all tests and in my opinion is the best.

Whether its the best for you too you have to decide..

Regards from the Axman

Anonymous: (Samstag 19. Mai 2007, 16:00)

Hi Axman

Finally i think that i will choose Michelin Pilot Road 2 when the time comes (i always like Michelin) but i was comfused for a moment.

Thanks again!!

I really like this forum and all the answers that you can get here, everyone are very friendly :!:

Axman what about with the kit from Krause for the 2005 model that you was going to ask? Any news???

Regards Giorgos

Axman: (Samstag 19. Mai 2007, 19:04)

Hi Georgios,

be a little patient my friend..

The Bulldog is still in the workshop ..so, as soon as I get it back I´ll answer your questions, ok? :wink:

Oh, but I forgot to ask you : does your Bulldog have Catalytic Converters??

Greets

from the Axman

Anonymous: (Samstag 19. Mai 2007, 21:35)

Hi Axman,

Sorry, but i'm impatient with everything.
Take your time, there is no hurry.

About the Catalytic Converters, i realy don't know, doesn't all models have? How can i understand if mine has? Can i? or i must ask the dealer for that?

(You really impress me with "Georgios" you wrote! Have you ever been in Greece? or "Georgios" is international name and i don't know it!!)

I'm reading about the meeting in Black Forrest and i am really jealous that i can't come.
I just hope that you make and a 5th meeting next year and i could be able to enjoy you (you are far from here but i don't care about it), just goes everything good with my work this year and surely i 'll come next year(if there is any meeting).

Regards Giorgos

Martin_CZ: Tire mileage on the Bulldog (Montag 21. Mai 2007, 18:39)

Hello,

I have ContiForce on my Bulldog and I'm not satisfied at all. The feeling which I got from Metzeler's MeZ3 is all gone (although there is some grip on the Conti). What is strange - the tread is really disappearing before my eyes :-/ Only made some 4000 km on it and I have about 0,5mm till the legal depth.
I am considering the Michelin's Pilot Road II (good news that they have won the test), but what should I expect? Is there going to be a better mileage on these "upper-class" tires, or shall I be prepared to loose more money on the same distance?
I am a very relaxed rider - no aggresive starts on the traffic lights, usual travel speed around 100-120 km/h. So I really see no reason why I loose the tread so quickly.

Thanks for any advices!

Martin

WullDee: (Dienstag 22. Mai 2007, 17:15)

Hi Martin,

I have ContiForce on my Bulldog and I'm not satisfied at all. The feeling which I got from Metzeler's MeZ3 is all gone (although there is some grip on the Conti). What is strange - the tread is really disappearing before my eyes :-/ Only made some 4000 km on it and I have about 0,5mm till the legal depth.

My MEZ3 lasted for only 5.750Km (rear wheel), and that was already below the legal depth of 1.6mm in Germany.
Concerning the Conti Force, I've got no experiences - but it seems that all actual Conti Tires have got a less lasting rubber for the benefit of more grip.
By the way, the handling of my MEZ3 were very bad the last kilometers ... esp. in comparison to my brand new Bridgestones.

I am considering the Michelin's Pilot Road II (good news that they have won the test), but what should I expect? Is there going to be a better mileage on these "upper-class" tires, or shall I be prepared to loose more money on the same distance?

The PR2 is, similar to the Bridgestone's BT021, made in two component technic - a more lasting rubber compound for the middle tread and a more softly compound for the sides for a better grip.
I will check out the detailed test results and let you know, what mileage estimates have been made for the different tires ...


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